tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761498836067676504.post7803834684064857486..comments2023-11-02T08:19:49.006-07:00Comments on CAW Workers Voice Of Reason: Did The Illegal Liberal Robocall In Guelph Break Two Elections Canada Laws?paulsstuffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01813949388254801232noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761498836067676504.post-13608940898229896652012-03-12T20:40:42.493-07:002012-03-12T20:40:42.493-07:00If the Liberal Robocalls violated Canada's ele...If the Liberal Robocalls violated Canada's election laws, then all parties have violated Canada's election laws. <br />I don't believe that any party should be able to advertise falsely or without full disclosure, but all parties do this. The Conservatives are not a stranger to advertising that is false or misleading. If anyone wants an investigation into false or misleading advertising ( including robocalls ) then no party is going to come out clean. <br /><br />There is a big difference between political calls that try to sway voters and political calls that pretend to be Elections Canada to prevent voters from voting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761498836067676504.post-54314338549156088832012-03-10T20:06:20.618-08:002012-03-10T20:06:20.618-08:00Zorpheous you band me because I caught you in a li...Zorpheous you band me because I caught you in a lie on the Crux of the Matter blog. There also has been others, but I guess you didn't like people catching you BSing and proving your full of it.Archiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03588893646888036397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761498836067676504.post-29999269098162590232012-03-10T19:08:19.554-08:002012-03-10T19:08:19.554-08:00Errr, Archie, there was only one blogger that I de...Errr, Archie, there was only one blogger that I delete and band, and that was some putz who always spammed my blog and refusd to use his really blogger id, forget hi now, it's been four or five years since then.<br /><br />As for being caught in a lie, carry to be a little specific?<br /><br />As for your last question, nope, I am not Pierre Poutine.<br /><br />Now if you have anything cogent to talk, let it rip, other wise have a nice life.Zorpheoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09618889126077232837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761498836067676504.post-47265722151153992382012-03-10T18:25:37.913-08:002012-03-10T18:25:37.913-08:00Been too busy with local politics to keep up but I...Been too busy with local politics to keep up but I do have to say that you are doing some good work on this file Paul, keep up the excellent work!Ardvarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08500944437649023719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761498836067676504.post-10105883499266994612012-03-10T17:20:38.958-08:002012-03-10T17:20:38.958-08:00Zorpheous things haven't changed with you, alw...Zorpheous things haven't changed with you, always twisting the facts. Is it a lesson you learned from your master GT. I seem to remember your blog and how you would edit the comments and kick people off for disagreeing with your twisted views, especially when they catch you in a lie. Most Conservative Bloggers are pretty broad minded and will put up with most lefty trolls like yourself as long if the language is clean and they don't break any legal issues. This is the exact opposite with most liberal bloggers who's blogs are heavily edited, they seem to not like hearing other peoples views or their readers reading the truth. I maybe blowing smoke out of my arse, but with your past history I wonder if you had anything to do with Robocall scandal, it does have your touch.Archiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03588893646888036397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761498836067676504.post-73648108620792768302012-03-10T17:20:26.713-08:002012-03-10T17:20:26.713-08:00Zorpheous @4:35pm
Your interpretation of my comme...Zorpheous @4:35pm<br /><br />Your interpretation of my comment is inaccurate. I was not responding to any suggestion that the CPoC hadn't acknowledged these calls. I am saying that they have strongly stated that the CPoC did not authorize any such calls.<br /><br />The comment I was responding to "at least the Tories are starting to admit these calls happened" suggested to me that the author was implying the Tories had admitted some culpability.<br />I was saying that they had done no such thing.Bechttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16197428781361903395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761498836067676504.post-27493478889235331792012-03-10T16:37:28.779-08:002012-03-10T16:37:28.779-08:00So Paul, would you to continue our discussion abou...So Paul, would you to continue our discussion about your theory of the Guelph Student involvement here since Iceman decide to be coward and deleted the stuff at his blog.Zorpheoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09618889126077232837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761498836067676504.post-40652470111125837012012-03-10T16:35:36.985-08:002012-03-10T16:35:36.985-08:00Bec and frmgtl, I suggest you listen to the audio ...Bec and frmgtl, I suggest you listen to the audio feed of The Commons CBC radio from last weekend. Dean del Mastro was on and very clear said the something illegal happened in Guelph. I don't have his exact words, as a politician he answers are always a little more wordy than requiredZorpheoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09618889126077232837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761498836067676504.post-51700954883414700422012-03-10T15:53:37.648-08:002012-03-10T15:53:37.648-08:00My vote was suppressed when the CBC chose to break...My vote was suppressed when the CBC chose to break the law and broadcast the election results before the polls closed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761498836067676504.post-16455628639386879572012-03-10T14:20:58.912-08:002012-03-10T14:20:58.912-08:00Just want to add:They also have emphasized that th...Just want to add:They also have emphasized that they want whoever is responsible,caught and punished like all of us do.frmgrlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06502680468496747562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761498836067676504.post-61585269033189101882012-03-10T13:57:19.820-08:002012-03-10T13:57:19.820-08:00What Tories have admitted to was that something de...What Tories have admitted to was that something definitely went awry in Quelph.frmgrlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06502680468496747562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761498836067676504.post-27197673510840221672012-03-10T13:22:46.558-08:002012-03-10T13:22:46.558-08:00"At least the Tories are starting to admit th..."At least the Tories are starting to admit these calls happened."<br /><br />The Tories haven't admitted to anything of the sort. <br />They have acknowledged that this garbage happened to them too in several instances but it's been happening to them for a very long time.<br /><br />What is disturbing is that this suppressing of the Conservative vote in Guelph is NOW just another 'move on folks, nothing to see here' moment because it's a precious Liberal.<br /><br />That is offensive and why the Liberals are a bunch of has-beens. They have no moral compass and find this behaviour normal and worth justifying.<br />It's not worth justifying and the tone of your comment Terry suggests that despite you knowing nothing and having no facts, the 'Tories' are responsible to change this or these dirty tricks from Liberals are completely acceptable.<br /><br />They are not okay, they are not healthy and this was approved and rationalized by the Liberal candidate. That is just downright messy, filthy politics.Bechttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16197428781361903395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761498836067676504.post-14883270673104198842012-03-10T12:48:31.776-08:002012-03-10T12:48:31.776-08:00Zorph.... the CBC "got wind" or EC's...Zorph.... the CBC "got wind" or EC's raid on CPC offices? <br /><br />Yep.."got wind" as in a phone call telling them it was happening. <br /><br />Incestuous relationships all around.Alberta Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08285990094040133979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761498836067676504.post-34586395680295410772012-03-10T11:34:22.026-08:002012-03-10T11:34:22.026-08:00The Liberals or NDP could of made the calls themse...The Liberals or NDP could of made the calls themselves...after all, the Liberal campaign workers were conveniently at the poll that was fake telling the voters the CONSERVATVES did this. Then Valeriote says they ripped up their voting cards. Looks like a nice stage effect.Liberal supporters??<br />Sort of like some of the scams Joe Volpe Liberals pulled. BTW Adam Caroll from Vilileaks(Liberal) was also the staffer with Volpe trashing green party pamphlets out of mailboxes. Don't forget the U of G...Liberal outside handing out Liberal pamphlets.<br />Oh yeah...Liberal dirty tricks The list goes on.<br />Then we have NDP robocalls into Quebec when their NDP candidate crossed the floor to the Liberals. Then slander lawsuits against Martin and the NDP party.Misleading media reports retracted. Lead now .ca..NDP... <br />Someone should investigate the CBC Vote Compass that told everyone they were LIBERALS...then follow the CBC $$$$$$$.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761498836067676504.post-63517311592553958412012-03-10T10:35:53.158-08:002012-03-10T10:35:53.158-08:00if it walks like a duck it probable is a duck Terr...if it walks like a duck it probable is a duck Terry<br />fhAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761498836067676504.post-76386375414759294282012-03-10T10:22:51.235-08:002012-03-10T10:22:51.235-08:00Robocalls misrepresenting EC, misdirecting voters,...Robocalls misrepresenting EC, misdirecting voters, and unreported on election finances, versus robocalls expressing a political opinion that didn't identify who was paying for the call, but was reported and known to EC.<br /><br />If you guys on the right can't see a difference, or that the Liberal version was worse, I can only hope you will be more vocal against such practices, demand a full investigation, and support tougher regulations. <br /><br />At least the Tories are starting to admit these calls happened.Terryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17214003372750232201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761498836067676504.post-89665085943272297042012-03-10T08:57:11.677-08:002012-03-10T08:57:11.677-08:00Conservative MP Dean Del Mastro is alleging the Li...Conservative MP Dean Del Mastro is alleging the Liberals used a fake return phone number to make the anti-Burke calls.<br /> <br />“If he wasn't trying to intentionally mislead the recipients then why did he use a number and exchange that he knew did not exist?”<br /> <br />Mr. Del Mastro said the number identified as making the call was 226-209-3758. <br />Ontario GirlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761498836067676504.post-9102490315778125402012-03-10T07:55:41.434-08:002012-03-10T07:55:41.434-08:00Paul, I think your friend The Iceman is a bit of a...Paul, I think your friend The Iceman is a bit of a "male member" Seems some of comments have mysteriously disappeared over on his blog.<br /><br />As for the Liberals violation of the EC, the CPC were fine for the In & Out scheme, the Liberals should be fined for their violations regarding these robocalls, if indeed that is punishment.<br /><br />As for the raid on CPC offices, that was the RCMP, and CBC got wind of it. Sucks when you get raid by the cops, but thats life.Zorpheoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09618889126077232837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761498836067676504.post-40237012304526740182012-03-10T07:31:18.767-08:002012-03-10T07:31:18.767-08:00Let google be your guide...
There's a Lauren ...Let google be your guide...<br /><br />There's a Lauren MacDonald that's a graduate student at the University of Guelph. Think that's the same person?oxygentaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02062383921172093288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761498836067676504.post-48735303473332045192012-03-10T07:27:49.550-08:002012-03-10T07:27:49.550-08:00EC won't do anything to the liberals or the ND...EC won't do anything to the liberals or the NDP I really don't want the Elections canada even putting there nose into this because there Biast. and there Liberal lovers. remember the Raid on conservative offices it was liberals wo arranged that. remember all the financing laws there letting the liberals pass on there debt and they let all the college students vote at that Cambuse even though it wasn't lagitimate. they didn't do anything with the pamflets being handed out near a Voting booth. so I am skeptical of them Pretending to be fair to conservatives.Roy Elsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11912925011551525087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761498836067676504.post-73021531900209039462012-03-10T07:27:15.109-08:002012-03-10T07:27:15.109-08:00No fine, no jail time. A my bad and everyone proce...No fine, no jail time. A my bad and everyone proceeds to the next violation. All parties do it and I lay the blame on EC for not enforcing the rules with more vigor.paulsstuffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01813949388254801232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761498836067676504.post-3697916265803627112012-03-10T07:23:03.057-08:002012-03-10T07:23:03.057-08:00not what I asked, is a fine? jail time?not what I asked, is a fine? jail time?Zorpheoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09618889126077232837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761498836067676504.post-49051247985863708952012-03-10T07:08:34.766-08:002012-03-10T07:08:34.766-08:00No wonder the Liberals have been quieter all of a ...No wonder the Liberals have been quieter all of a sudden. Still doesn't stop some from their usual spin though. <br />tylerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761498836067676504.post-79500873581333723282012-03-10T06:57:20.321-08:002012-03-10T06:57:20.321-08:00In most cases of breaking EC rules, EC finds the p...In most cases of breaking EC rules, EC finds the party guilty, put a little blurb on the EC website that the party recognized the mistake, and history repets itself all over.<br /><br /> In this case two violations may have occurred. At the end of the day EC will say no big deal, wasn't a Conservative.paulsstuffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01813949388254801232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5761498836067676504.post-17463010773833096432012-03-10T06:28:46.069-08:002012-03-10T06:28:46.069-08:00I'm sure that Elections Canada will require th...I'm sure that Elections Canada will require them to release any information regarding the issue.Zorpheoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09618889126077232837noreply@blogger.com